
Political Thinking with Nick Robinson
The Jacinda Ardern One
June 7, 2025
34 minutes
Available for over a year
How does it feel to be held up as the 'anti-Trump' by progressives across the globe?
Jacinda Ardern was prime minister of New Zealand for 6 years and is now committed to promoting empathy and kindness in world leadership.
She s Nick in the Political Thinking studio to reflect on her unexpected rise to power and being described as a 'global pinup for progressive values'.
She also opens up about how growing up in a Mormon family prepared her for politics and reveals what she told Donald Trump in the aftermath of the murder of 51 people in a mosque in New Zealand in 2019.
Producer: Daniel Kraemer